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For no reason I've been watching a lot of LPs, in particular HC Bailly's SNES Final Fantasy VI one. He's got Shadow back in the WoR and it getting all the dreams. That reminded me of the BRING GENERAL LEO BACK TO LIFE DUDE rumours.

I wasn't really ONLINE during the big old heyday of those, or in FF fandom. I started up online in 1996 in Sailormoon and X-Files fandom, and the first final Fantasy I knew of was VII from the commercials. I still remember how cool those were. But I digress! Two of my friends had FFVI - well, it was FF3 here then (and both of them had the version with the corrected-but-still-present SKETCH BUG, hence the dorky tags, lolle) - and they were active in gaming fandom, so I heard about all the character resurrection theories from them. I forget totally how one was supposed to bring back Aerith, it had to do with getting the White Materia back somehow but apart from that I got nothin'.

I do, however, remember how one was supposed to get General Leo back. Well, this was the way I heard, there are other theories.

Shadow has five dreams, right? Well, according to the theory I heard, he actually has SEVEN. You must get all five dreams before shooting for six and seven or it won't work. You also have to have done the Phoenix/Rachel subplot. Basically, when you get the seventh dream, Shadow will remember something about that half-submerged house in Mobliz, the one you can't get into. There was something here about getting a key from some old lady too, I forget where she was said to be. But after that, if you go to the house, somehow Shadow will get into the house and bring out a book/a relic/it depends obviously. You trade this to the kooky old man in Kohlingen, who gives you a Resurrection Potion he made from something the Phoenix esper left. You pour this on Leo's grave and VOILA HE JOIN YOUR PAR-TAY.

It's total nonsense of course, but it was plausible enough to drive my friend C nuts off his gourd trying to get those elusive two more dreams.

SO! Anyone else remember a rumour like that? XD If so, post 'em in ye comments, I'm in a nerdy nostalgic mood and I love urban legends like that.

Date: 2010-09-24 01:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] corvid.livejournal.com
I didn't really get a lot of the game rumors back as a kid. I do remember issues upon issues of Nintendo Power explaining how to get through parts of Faria (so it had this epic quest with horrible difficulty feeling to me.) And I remember similar explanations about the Gold Nail in Secret of the Stars.

Back when Breath of Fire 3 was new, there was a lot of ranting about the desert and how the heck it worked. And Tales of Destiny had a typo in a password to complete the game. As in you had to type in a nonsense word. For a while there, everything online had "The Password is" as the first sentence of their section.

Still, I missed out on a lot of the rumors, back in the day.

Date: 2010-09-24 01:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rienna-the-red.livejournal.com
I remember there was a (patently absurd) one for FF7 and resurrecting Aeris.

Date: 2010-09-24 01:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yukie1013.livejournal.com
I remember hearing about that one but the details escape me besides the GET TEH WHITE MATERIA DAWG part. XD

Date: 2010-09-24 02:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yukie1013.livejournal.com
OH GOD now I remember that one! That's a different one than I heard! The one I knew, you had to like go diving in the water for the White Materia. Somehow.

Date: 2010-09-24 02:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maeveth.livejournal.com
Of course that particular convoluted scheme does not answer the most pertinent question.

Which is...why the hell would Shadow even CARE if Leo was dead?

Date: 2010-09-24 02:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yukie1013.livejournal.com
I don't know~~ Hahaha. Maybe it was supposed to be that Leo reminds him of his late boyfriendBaram or something? I haven't got the foggiest idea. XD

I know there's another resurrection scenario where you have to fight a bunch of some critter (I think it was T-Rexaurs) for a rare drop? or something? I'm not familiar with that one so much.

(Also, ee Edgar XD)

Date: 2010-09-24 03:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] woekitten.livejournal.com
Ffffffucking Shadow. Fuck his dreams, and fuck Gamepro for lying about a 1:30 chance of seeing an all-revealing dream if you sleep at any Inn in the WoR! It was supposed to confirm without a doubt that Shadow is Relm's father--though the re-translation for Final Fantasy VI Advance pretty much confirms the link.

But my teenage angst over the whole schpiel lasted for a good few years. Very hilarious when you consider that Square confirmed the link as early as 1995, and even had a scene with Strago and Shadow that was removed before the game's release:
Strago: I have one request... Show me your face. Even if you are him, I have no intention of wasting time trying to talk you into staying. I just want to know... for Relm's sake...
Shadow: ...... (He takes off his mask and shows Strago his face. However, his back is turned so that the player can't see.)
Strago: Thank you... Shadow. ...Come, let's have a drink.

fffffffffff! ffffffffffff, I say!

Date: 2010-09-24 05:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yukie1013.livejournal.com
DUANE AND KATARIN YEAH.

Oh god Gamepro was the crackmobile. I don't even. I just. Words fail me.

Also ffffff I guessed at Shadow being Relm's dad as soon as I saw the Memento ring. After Interceptor was all super friendly? And then the first dream with the 'take care of her'? It was like BWEEOO BWEEOO OBVIOUS to my mind. But then I watched a lot of soap operas with my grandma, so my mindset was skewed in that direction. XD Long-lost anything = hell yeah.

And now some random! People (not you I know XD I'm just making too much text because the NeoCitran is being slow to kick in) give Woolsey a lot of flak for the FFVI translation - that Shadow-vaguery among the big complaints - but - honestly the deadlines the guy worked under are INHUMAN. I think he had something ungodly like a week or two to work on Secret of Mana, and they couldn't/wouldn't make the text space smaller... I remember him saying he regularly had to ditch about 50% of any given game script and flail like crazy to beat things into line. And censorship standards there were damn fantastic. (Though that lead to kefka's 'extrerminated a traitor' line, which worked WONDERFULLY.) Yeah, some of it turned into a pile of ridonkulous and the lack of proofreading makes me spasm, but FFVI SNES is still a charming game and VERY much playable.

Provided you don't zap your game with the sketch bug. XD

And the idea of Strago and Shadow sharin' a two-four won't leave my mind now. Huzzah. XD
Edited Date: 2010-09-24 05:30 am (UTC)

Date: 2010-09-24 09:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torsui.livejournal.com
oh FFVI you will always be my first love. you never forget your first Doctor FF. i really want locke in the dissidia sequel (or in a KH game, godfriggin'!) but the smart money's on celes. sigh.

there were a few urban legends for some of the N64 games: getting the triforce/accessing the light temple in ocarina of time; one about goldeneye i can't remember, argh; playing as luigi in mario 64... and of course, way back when, all those rumors about getting mew in pokemon. until someone came up with a method that worked. XD

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