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yukie1013 ([personal profile] yukie1013) wrote2012-05-22 02:18 pm

WoW: So I'm sitting around trying to work things out about my dorky WoW OCs...

...And this happens:

Me: ... ... ...Ishandarr, you're one of five kids, how did that happen o.O
Ishan: My parents married young, we're all pretty spaced out--
Acamarr: *enter the DK's maternal grandpa* And there are a lot of druids on your mother's side of the family.

lawl.

Also, three "epic quests" happened last night!

1) The "Elemental Bonds lololol" questline! It's remarkable in that it shows just how stunningly little Aggra even knows about Thrall (seriously, lady, if all the desire stuff was new to you, you're a n00b), and as such it managed to annoy the living Christ out of me. How the hell is Fandral strong enough to pull the shit he pulls? Blizz really fucking needs to settle on just what their NPCs' power levels even are. The upsides: (a) the 'we are patient' thing and Aggra flailing all over at such, and (b) the fact that I was doing the quest at the same time as a Draenei shammy and a N'elf drood who were as irreverently dorky as I am, and we kept spamming /point /laugh at Aggra. Also tanking is fun. Anyway, we all spammed /hug at Jaina in the end. And I cannot stop laughing at the fact that Sandals!Tyrande has a Snooki Bump.

2) The "Alextrasza and Deathwing have a big awkward air brawl" questline! Oh, so awkward. Calen, you're a ninny. Alex, you are the Aspect of Booteh. Nelth, your face is too cute for me to take you seriously as a villain. Seriously guy, your default expression is >:}, that's not scary. Also, lol forever at the idea of Ishan managing to yoink a loopy adrenaline-buzzed and rather achy Alex onto the back of a little red drake. Blizzard, you can't tell me that butt shot was accidental. Gainax lives! Also, the little Twidrake moblings are pushovers. One flame breath, one GNARRR NOM NOM and they go down? Weakbiscuits. Also, why doesn't the red flight know me? I smacked cultists around for them all the time in Wrath. Alex knows me. I am an indignant elf. :x

3) The "HAMMER OF THE TWIHARDS" questline! Which--fuck you, Cho'gall isn't scary, he's just STUPID. I resent having my DK--who spent several years of his unlife being experimented on in Scholomance and then loitering about Naxxramas before being assigned to Acherus, whose soul spent two years inside Frostmourne before all the aforementioned bollocks and therein experienced shit so bad that his memory broke, who witnessed countless examples of towering whaFUCK at Northrend, who faced down Arthas's megalomaniacal undead monarch yeti ass atop ICC with his homeslices during Wrath--do the WHOASHIT animation around some gronn and his chumpstick ogre bossman, especially when said chumpstick's heads cannot fucking stop arging like my little sister and I used to do when we were crammed into the backseat of an '84 Citation II for a roadtrip! I really resent that. The only reason Ishan would have gone WHOASHIT at that time is in dread over the impending gronnfight and its annoying fucking altar clicking. Also, fix Skullcrusher's aggro table. *snort* At least I got to beat down his stupid gronn ass alongside three badass women. Zaela, Garona and Cozwynn kick ass. Also, Cozwynn is adorable. "I must say I enjoyed the sight of the buildings exploding ^_^" omfg love.

In conclusion now I desperately want to write something that'll make the Twilight's Hammer SCARY, because right now they're kind of not. I don't feel al all trapped when I am running around their base (compare and contrast ICC, which looks like a giant spikety prison), two-headed ogres are innately funny, ettins die like drama queens, and Cho'gall is a nincompoop.

Also, I really wanna know why the Twihards are helping Deathwing at all, since it's implied that it's N'Zoth who made Nelthy all WTF, Cho'gall is a C'Thun fanboy, and we know that N'Zoth and C'Thun and Yogg-Saron don't like each other. Are the Twihards just--not really caring WHO blows up the world as long as it does blow up? I r confus.

At least it's easy to tell why Ragnaros is there. He's a pyro, Deathwing's a pyro, so it's time for a super-flamin' BBQ.

Bluh. The more I fumble around with Cata's overplot the more it looks like a disjointed mess. Oh well--maybe the Druids of the Cornholio Style Pyromania Plot will be cooler now that I've opened up the Molten Front.

[identity profile] silverr.livejournal.com 2012-05-22 07:07 pm (UTC)(link)
"Are the Twihards just--not really caring WHO blows up the world as long as it does blow up?"

Seems like.

[identity profile] yukie1013.livejournal.com 2012-05-23 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
I was worried I'd missed something XD;;

[identity profile] nagaina-ryuuoh.livejournal.com 2012-05-22 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I've been toying with the inner workings of Twilight theology as part of my own ongoing plot related stuff and, basically, your answer is yes: the cult is nihilistic at its core, and doesn't care how the world ends or who ends it so long as it does, in fact, end. Their fundamental belief, actually laid out during one of the early Hyjal quests, is that the physical world as we know it is based on the forced violation of pure, elemental, spiritual essence, is inherently corrupt and irredeemable, and its best for the whole mess to be returned to purer state.

[identity profile] yukie1013.livejournal.com 2012-05-22 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
OH! kay, now it makes a little more sense to me. I was going, 'okay so are the generic doomsday or have they got an affiliation beyond "YOU EPXLODE THINGS ERGO YOU ROCK" or what is going on here' because I never did get a chance too see any of the old 'look guys DUKES' Silithus quests, only the b0rked quest as it exists today.

...Jeez, now I feel silly; I must have missed that quest text, bleh. Usually I'm pretty good about reading it; I'm guessing that I was probably having wander-mind or giggling at something one of the Twimeister NPCs was saying to me because--while in canon I don't find them terribly compelling (I DO like how you work with them from what I've seen of it because you make them spooky), they are often funny as hell. The making fun of your terrible cultist name, the 'no point, it's just hilarious to make newbs do this, heh heh', the flood of buh that mistakes in the lolspeech sequence conjures--that, I like. XD Essentially the stuff that gives them personality and makes them not just generically nihilistic. Nihilism can be done well, but I think some quest writers leaned too hard on 'they're bad because they want to explode everything omg stop them' rather than fleshing stuff out to the extent that it maybe could have been?

I likely also missed a lot of the building-up of them and of Neltharion because I did not play WC2. I know roughly where the TwiHam CLAN came from and vaguely how it mutated into the merry crew of purple-clad dramaqueens we know today, but...bluh, I'm not sure how to articulate this. Mostly, they don't really scare me, because they feel too obvious. Obviousness doesn't automatically nuke the scaryfactor, thought, because like--In Silithus, they are unnerving to me, because Silithus is full of bitey insectoids working for an old god, and also full of whatever the hell the TwiHams are summoning--the zone is hostile, it's arid, if you run you're probably hosed anyway because bugs and heatstroke and etc. (Silithus is an example of how a wide open space can make you feel hemmed in; all those hives form a triangle with you and Cenarion Hold stuck in the middle and the gods only know what's going on under your feet.) And they don't have full control either--the Crystalline Vale is one of the most eerie things in the game, to me, because it's so deathly still. (It also has beautiful music--those ethereal bells and chimes sound like crystals being struck.)

Now that I know what they BELIEVE and what they're going for, I like them a little more (doubly so because it semi-implies they're following Cho'gall in hopes that something big eats him after he summons it, lawl)--and heck, I can even see a bit of a point to that because most people on Azeroth these days are being really STUPID. I'm not sure about their heavy social Darwinism, still, because while it's funny as balls it also means they're vulnerable to sabotage, interpersonal wirepulling and people who can talk a really good game. I've seen social groups like that violently combust, and the combustion is a matter of 'when' more than 'if'. It's a nice mirroring of how the elementals they like get along, though--NONE OF THEM LIKE EACH OTHER.

Bluh. I'm not sure where I was going with this comment anymore. Anyway thank you for the clarification of stuff I missed. I suspect with the TwiHams Blizz kind of got stuck in the difficult position of 'how do we deal with a shady cult that's supposed to be all subtle and crap and have dudes everywhere...but yet make their motives known to players...but avoid making them look stupid?' That is HARD. I still hold that using Cho'gall as they did may have been a mistake, and I think it might have been cooler if like--maybe if he'd been this reclusive weirdo who was never out in the open (he has too may eyes to poke to be doing that!) and was much further along in his mutation/metamorphosis, maybe to the point of not being motile. Balance 'his heads are goddamn fighting lolwut' with 'oh wat C'Thun is using him as potting soil' and you might even have players feeling a bit bad for him even though it was his choice to be potting soil.

This comment is too long. @_@
Edited 2012-05-22 23:29 (UTC)